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brian horsley
@brian horsley
09/30/11 09:42:17
48 posts

Cocoa Bean Storage


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi shana, i know about warehousing large amounts of cacao beans, the basic principles should apply for small scale too.

humidity will cause mold if you don't keep the air moving, you need a well ventilated place. if the air is dry then ventilation is less important. so for instance if they're in a closed cupboard in a humid place, and particularly if they're very dry, like below 7%, they will uptake water and can get moldy. you could leave the cupboard door a little open and put a small 15cm fan in there and it should help the problem.

temp is not as important, generally speaking the cooler the better so 15-18 is no problem at all. when you get up into tropical temps you have to think more about it.

you want to keep the beans away from potential contaminants and odors as they can uptake those too. so if there's dust, if you're cooking strong odors nearby like garlic, if the cabinets themselves have any kind of food or chemical odor, or if they're exposed to smoke of any kind, you can have off flavors in the beans and hence the chocolate. also this is more for when you have a concrete floor/walls, but they should be off the floor on wood pallets and never touching the walls. I cover the floor and walls in heavy gauge plastic to avoid contact and/or contamination.

finally there are some bugs that will attack cacao beans in tropical climates. i can't imagine its a problem in ireland but if you have ventilation holes or leave the cupboard door open, you may want to screen the beans off with a simple flexible mosquito mesh to stop small moths or flying baddies from getting in there and laying eggs in your beans.

hope this helps,

brian

Shana Wilkie
@Shana Wilkie
09/30/11 03:18:51
4 posts

Cocoa Bean Storage


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Hi all,

Could anyone advise me how to store my cocoa beans before I roast them? They arrived in jute bags. I am only starting out and still experimenting with roast times, winnowing, grinding, refining. I have read that beans can go moldy. At the moment I am re-bagging into smaller jute bags and storing in a cupboard. The average daily temperature in there varies about 15-18degrees. Is this cool enough to store the cocoa bean?

Any help or advise is greatly appreciated.

On separate note, I am finding the winnowing very slow, (crankandstein and hairdryer method) however I am confident that with the growing interest in making chocolate that soon someone out there will develop an affordable small scale winnower. Thanks to everyone for all the posts they are extremely helpful and informative.

Shana

Ireland


updated by @Shana Wilkie: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
09/29/11 20:09:24
1,688 posts

Chocolate Factory Bucket List


Posted in: Travels & Adventures

The JustLuxe web site recently posted a list of ten chocolate factories to explore around the world.

Problem is - the list is a mix of actual places where chocolate gets made, confectionery factories, plus a museum and at least one retail store where no chocolate of any kind (neither chocolate nor confectionery). Surprisingly, the US takes three of the top ten spots - Mast Bros, Theo, and Tcho.

The slide show is here . Please post your thoughts/reactions to the selection.

The JustLuxe list begs the question ... what chocolate factories (actual places where chocolate is made, not candy/confectionery factories and places where chocolate is only sold or venerated) would make it to your top ten list? Especially if you got the insider guided tour. And let us know which ones you've already checked off on your your bucket list - if any.

Also - what's your favorite chocolate factory tour story?

Mine just might be taking brilliantly fresh macarons off a speed rack and passing them through the chocolate (called Melissa) used to make Pralus' Barre Infernale Lait and eating them messily ... at 6:30 in the morning. Chased with a double espresso we are talking the true breakfast of champions.


updated by @Clay Gordon: 04/17/15 15:13:33
Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
12/20/11 05:15:28
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Ah, what a good idea. They must be in temper as my associate just brought some mold back that she used for marketing. I made them in August and they are still fine. Thanks.

Davy Asnong
@Davy Asnong
12/20/11 04:05:03
19 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

In don't thinks you did anything wrong.

Just the same as you handdip pralines, they won't be a shiny as a moulded praline.

If you want the bottoms more shiny, you can put a plastic foil on the chocolate when it is still fluid.

Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
12/09/11 08:49:11
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Ok, so I have been trying to take photos of my molds with the problems. The photos are not very good, but never the less you will be able to see the kind of "streaks" and even something that looks like chocolate bloom. The top is beautifully shiny, falls out of the molds if I do not turn them around carefully with a good snap. Also it is not all the molds from the one batch, some are perfect than some has these marks and chocolate bloom. The ones that are so very white shows how the white "spots" is more visible at certain angles and at others you cannot see it. Could it be the way I work with them. I spoon the chocolate into the molds. Should I rather try the method with the plastic bottle? I just find that the nozzle clogs after a while, so help please!

I do not have a decent camera, do not know how to get the photos from my cell that does take decent photos as I have to do it with blue tooth and I do not know how to do it and even with the best equipment I will not be able to take decent photos, so I hope these will give you an idea of my problem.

Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
10/02/11 08:16:10
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I'm sorry I still don't have photos to show you (I have no clue how to get them in focus!), hopefully my son will pitch up here some time, he is never around on weekends! These last few days I ran into even more problems with my molds. Now I get full out chocolate bloom, I can understand that is a tempering problem, what I do not understand is that I have no problem with my dipped truffles?

I am using a long stem teaspoon to put the chocolate into the molds. Previously they came out OK as I have said above, but I am now wondering it that is the problem. Should I try the method of the plastic bottle with the chocolate in it? Will that make any difference. I it was only a tempering problem I should have problems with my dipped truffles as well?

Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
09/30/11 00:54:35
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Ruth, thanks for your reply, you might be right. As soon as I have photos I post them and let you all on Chocolate Life tell me whether I am paranoid or whether I have a real problem.
Ruth Atkinson Kendrick
@Ruth Atkinson Kendrick
09/29/11 17:46:59
194 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Is it possible that it is dull by comparison to the shine you get from a mold? I'm wondering if it is just the normal less-than shiny finish one gets when closing molds?
Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
09/29/11 09:49:20
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Thanks Clay. I am not successful in trying to get you clear photos. I do not have a decent camera (a bad workman blames his tools!) I'll ask my son to take some when he is here again and then I will upload them. Meantime I have figured out that some of my problems are because my thermometer's battery is flat. I did not think it possible as it is not even a month old. I suppose it did not come with a fully loaded battery from the factory.
Clay Gordon
@Clay Gordon
09/29/11 07:43:03
1,688 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Margarietha -

Can you please upload some clear pictures that show the problem you are describing?

Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
09/29/11 00:51:33
83 posts

Molds


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Sorry, but I have another question, AGAIN! My molds I made last night comes out of the mold with only a very light tap and, of course, the part that was on the mold is beautiful and shiny, but the bottoms are dull, no chocolate bloom though.

I get it with all my molds, all the molds I have made a long time ago is still beautifully shiny on the top, dull at the bottom, but even after months no chocolate bloom. I am keeping them to see what is going to happen! Any idea why that is the case? Does it mean my chocolate is not quite in temper yet?


updated by @Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Sebastian
@Sebastian
09/29/11 04:28:49
754 posts

Legal Jargon: Alcohol in Confectionery


Posted in: Tasting Notes

it effectively means that you can't add alcohol if you plan to sell your product.
Craig Boreth
@Craig Boreth
09/28/11 12:37:36
8 posts

Legal Jargon: Alcohol in Confectionery


Posted in: Tasting Notes

Here's a line from the DC city code. Can anyone tell me what the last clause means:

[Confectionery is considered adulterated if it]:

"...bears or contains more than 0.5% of alcohol by volume, which is derived solely from flavoring extracts, except that the confectionery shall not be adulterated for purposes of this chapter if the confectionery is introduced, delivered for introduction, received, or held for sale..."

What do they mean by "introduced, delivered for introduction, received, or held for sale...?"

Does it mean if the product is created outside DC and then sold to either a consumer or retailer in DC?


updated by @Craig Boreth: 04/15/15 17:45:17
Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
09/29/11 10:08:05
83 posts

Suddenly having trouble with tempering again


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I can answer myself here! My thermometer's battery was flat and I was to thick to realize it.
Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
@Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis
09/28/11 08:34:20
83 posts

Suddenly having trouble with tempering again


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have been going on happily tempering my Valrhona and getting my truffles and molds all very beautiful, now suddenly it is not working. The chocolates unmold perfectly, but even before they set the backs have chocolate bloom.

I thought maybe I am taking it too high for the working temperature as I am taking it to the 32C as on the back of the package. Initially I take it to very high, about 58C and then temper with the seed method to 29C and up to about 32C.

I am wondering if it could be the temperature as it is summer here in South Africa (well not really, but cannot tell the difference!) The room I am working in at the moment is about 26C, but in the morning it was probably round 24C. Previously I worked at 22C without problems.

So I do not know what I am doing here. Maybe it is the heat, I do not know how humid it is, but we have to bake and cook in the same room, so maybe it is a little too humid but it has never been a problem before.

I think I let it get too cold working with it this morning, it went down to about 29.4C at a stage, I pressed on because I was nearly finished, but all but the first two molds have chocolate mold even before they set.

I have had my husband wash and dry all the molds and I am going to try again. I am baking now and as soon as I am finished I am going to try again. I have it on the stove melting now so that it is at about 58C for a few hours. So I'll let you know what happens.

Any ideas will really help. I do not know enough to figure out why I am suddenly having problems.

Thanks.


updated by @Magrietha Hendrika du Plessis: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Wilma Olive-Mills
@Wilma Olive-Mills
10/16/11 09:57:57
8 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I love it, I love it, I love it......... I just wish that the book had a troubleshooting chapter but so far everyone on this web site has been wonderful.
Melanie Boudar
@Melanie Boudar
10/15/11 21:30:42
104 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

why are you needing to stop the flow?When I hook mine up I temper the chocolate, then quickly push the snowflake temper button and the flow button off. Put on the hose and press them both back on again.I do this again to disconnect and pull away the enrober. The chocolate stays in temper.
Elaine Hsieh
@Elaine Hsieh
10/15/11 20:11:43
25 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have been considering the Selmi plus with the enrober - how do you like yours so far?
Wilma Olive-Mills
@Wilma Olive-Mills
10/15/11 17:19:13
8 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I now have another problem when I hook up the enrober to the flow of chocolate and push the pedal down to stop the flow I get a red light on the flow and then I have to start the tempering process all over again why am I getting a red light behind the flow when I try to hook up the enrober?

Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
10/02/11 12:44:40
55 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

There's no such thing as a dumb question - if you don't know the answer this is as good a place to shout as any!
Wilma Olive-Mills
@Wilma Olive-Mills
09/30/11 12:48:50
8 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Wow am I dumb or what I had the magnetic switch on the wrong side!!!! Got it working and boy does it ever temper fast. Can't wait to play some more on it. Got a huge order so I had better start soon. Thanks for the insight, it really helped me now I know who I can ask all of my questions to dumb or not!!! :)
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
09/30/11 12:35:20
55 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

On Mine part of the grill hooks over to the outside and this has a small magnetic switch on it. As I said, without it it won't work. My model also has a seperate "U" section with the switch on so that you can have the stirres turning and put your hands in. So they have a safety switch and supply the means to instantly circumvent it.

I checked today and mine displays the same thing without the switch in place. As you look at the temperer from the front it is on the outside right hand side. Nothing plugs in - it must be magnetic.

Duffy

Wilma Olive-Mills
@Wilma Olive-Mills
09/28/11 10:18:15
8 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have the grill on but there doesn't seem to be a micro switch on my grill and the grill that the book has isn't the same grill as I have mine is stainless steel with no switches on it to plug in.
Duffy Sheardown
@Duffy Sheardown
09/28/11 09:29:51
55 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

My Selmi displays that message if the grill that stops you waving your hands in amongst the moving stirrers isn't in place. There's a micro-switch on the grill that allows the stirrer and everything else to work when it is in place. If it isn't that I have no idea, sorry.

Duffy

Wilma Olive-Mills
@Wilma Olive-Mills
09/27/11 18:18:36
8 posts

Selmi Plus 2010 model Trouble Shooting


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I have a used 2010 Selmi plus and plugged it in and pushed the black start button and all the windows says is ALL PRO. It won't start I can't change the temperature I'm afraid to add chocolate in case it won't work. I followed the instructions and pushed prewarmcommand (and it starts warming up the bowl and there is still some chocolate left in the bottom from the people I bought it from); they only started it up to do the training and then I got it so it hasn't even been used!!! Can someone help me!!!!

Wilma


updated by @Wilma Olive-Mills: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Ice Blocks!
@Ice Blocks!
10/03/11 02:22:48
81 posts

Raw chocolate.....again


Posted in: Opinion

Is there any chocolate flavour in un-fermented beans?

Interesting presentation about cacao fermentation.

http://www.worldcocoafoundation.org/who-we-are/partnership-meetings/pdfs/MGilmour_Fermentation.pdf

What about dutching that should allow 4 possible raw cacao's and varying levels of dutching. i.e. black unfermented dutched cacao or lightly dutched fermented raw cacao etc.. LOL?

Richard Foley
@Richard Foley
09/28/11 00:49:39
48 posts

Raw chocolate.....again


Posted in: Opinion

Podfathers Chocolates....... busting open a whole rawta cocoa, and all cash business..where is this going.
Tom
@Tom
09/27/11 17:07:15
205 posts

Raw chocolate.....again


Posted in: Opinion

Come on Jim, $2.50 per pod at least, this is raw chocolate after all!
Jim2
@Jim2
09/27/11 13:22:13
49 posts

Raw chocolate.....again


Posted in: Opinion

Tom,

I think you have just solved my cocoa bean marketing problem. I am going to offer the rawwwwest cacau for those that aspire to it.

You can come to my farm, go into the cacau plantation, I'll provide a guide....and for 1dollar a pod, pick your own and feast until your hearts content. The guide will break them open for you and collect the dollars.

Tom
@Tom
09/27/11 06:42:37
205 posts

Raw chocolate.....again


Posted in: Opinion

I am almost sorry to raise the subject again but I recently came across Sungods Superfoods ( www.sungodsuperfoods.com.au ) being flogged in my local supermarket. Raw cacao nibs from Bali was the product, overpriced and claiming to cure all that ails ya. Anyway, curious, i bought some as i wanted to find out how raw we are talking. I have had a few experiences with Bali cacao, a nice fermented batch which made some pretty nice chocolate and some absolute shit, mould covered unfermented beans.....just wash the pulp off and dry, apparently quite common in Indo. Tasting, then roasting and tasting led me to the conclusion that the nibs were unfermented and unroasted. Then i thought what is all the hoo ha about raw chocolate being fermented, who cares if fermentation goes too hot, just skip a step, wash the pulp straight off the bean, dry the sucker and you are done. You have raw cacao without having to quibble about the fermentation temperature with the added bonus of not having exposed the beans to a multitude of unchecked possibly pathogenic microorganisms and as far as i can tell it still tastes aweful, so perfect!So are there two catagories of 'raw cacao'? Which is better, dare i say 'raw-er'?I can probably have a go at this, the unfermented would be raw-er, but the fermented probably tastes marginally better. But as for more heath-filled, fermentation probably breaks down the polyphenols a bit, so do we want shorter chains or longer?
updated by @Tom: 04/12/15 00:47:18
David Israel
@David Israel
09/28/11 21:43:33
1 posts

Dipped ginger-infused truffles cracking or streaking


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

As Mark stated, your centers should not be cold; they should be at ambient/room temperature when dipped. Also, you may try rolling the centers first in untempered chocolate, as that first coat will not contract--and possibly crack--around the center. Once that first coat is set, you can dip the centers in your tempered chocolate.
Mark Heim
@Mark Heim
09/28/11 19:42:37
101 posts

Dipped ginger-infused truffles cracking or streaking


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Watch the time you roll the truffles in hand with chocolate. Temperature of your hands at the surface are 92F+ and you can untemper the chocolate. When you then dip again, it can soften and blend with the untempered first coat. Also watch the temperature of the centers, if too cold you can get streaks as you no longer control crystallization.Try rolling on parchment paper in chocolate. The paper on wood or styrofoam sheet keeps it from cooling too quickly.
Nicole Gnutzman
@Nicole Gnutzman
09/26/11 15:41:53
24 posts

Dipped ginger-infused truffles cracking or streaking


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

When I dip my ginger-infused truffles, the tempered chocolate sometimes cracks or streaks. I've reduced the amount of cracking by rolling the truffles in my hand in tempered chocolate first, letting that set, and then dipping them with a dipping tool, but it's a lot of work! The streaking is confounding me. The chocolate is in temper (88 degrees), so I'm wondering if there's too much liquid in the ganache or if the ginger is somehow affecting the temper.
updated by @Nicole Gnutzman: 04/11/25 09:27:36
Mattias Blom
@Mattias Blom
05/05/13 12:18:40
13 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Did anyone answer the question about cooling (to 80F) in a ice bath?

Is there not an issue of it cooling down too fast in that case?

G P Baron
@G P Baron
02/28/13 20:57:07
4 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Dear everyone,

I agree. A newbie like myself, who is still learning must make many temper checks. Keep written records of weights; room, product & working temperatures; time at each stage; samples; etc. of every batch.

It took some time before we produced good results (chocolates that stayed dark, snapped & produced minimum bloom after a few days) that were reproducible. I am very happy to share our findings (specially) to enthusiasts who want to make artisan Cacao Bean chocolates with simple local equipment at their disposal. People like me who live in a Cacao Producing country but have no access to proper chocolate making machines like the Chocovision, Rev 2, ACMC, etc. mentioned in this forum.

My tempering machine is something I designed & fabricated locally after studying the designs of similar machines on the internet. Its main feature is a water jacket for heating or cooling.

To drop chocolate temperature, we gradually run cold to chilled water (up to 25-26 degC) in the water jacket until the chocolate is about 31 degC. Then, the chocolate is slightly reheated, kept at 32-33 degC & molded.

We can drop chocolate temperature to 30 degC (as specified in many discussions) but the liquor becomes very thick, un-workable & prone to solidification. Reheating & keeping it at 32 degC for the molding process also becomes impossible.

We are happy with our chocolates for now. Thank you to all who have helped us by posting & sharing what they know. We hope newbies like us can benefit from this info also.

Best regards to all.

G e r r y

Daniela Vasquez
@Daniela Vasquez
12/23/12 08:32:52
58 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

Since your chocolate is artisanal, you should do temper checks everytime. Then you'll know the correct temps for YOUR chocolate. The temp curve can vary depending on the type of cacao, the process, the amount of cacao butter, hte quality of the cacao butter, the type of chocolate, etc. When you decrease the temp in your chocolate, make temper checks at different temperatures until you get the right one and write it down :)

Thomas Forbes
@Thomas Forbes
12/13/12 12:16:32
102 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

The machine using a air fan to cool and heat up the chocolate. It holds around 24-25 oz of chocolate and probably takes around 45 minutes to go through the entire process until I am ready to pour into the molds. My instructions were to add the seed when you achive maximum tempurature and there is an indicator which beeps when it reaches 90 degrees so you can remove the seed. I end up using 3 1.2 oz bars for seed to produce 21 bars, meaning I really make 18 1.2 oz bars with a pound and half.

I was trying to table temper without a seed on the countertop for many months with inconsistent results. My problem was when it got down into the 80's, the tempurature would fall too fast and get to the low 80's before I could mush it into the other, warmer chocolate. I also had because after I mushed the cooler and warmer chocolate, the tempurature would still be above 90. I have someone in the industry who wants to teach me how to table temper. I could see doubling or tripling the size of my batches, getting more molds and increasing my capacity. Right now, I can usually temper and mold about 4.5 lbs in a 4-5 hour stretch.

G P Baron
@G P Baron
12/13/12 03:04:35
4 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

At the start of this thread, Nicole said she was " ... tempted to try using a cold water bath instead."

Thomas, how do you drop temperature from 118F to 86F? Does your Chocovision use cold or chilled water? How long does it take?

Heating chocolate (in a double boiler or a hot-water jacketed machine as in my case) is easy. But cooling from 115F (or higher) to 88F (or lower) is DIFFICULT. It also does not appear to be well discussed in this forum.

Using a marble or granite slab (presumably in an air-conditioned or cold room) makes sense. But, can we just really use fans & blowers for chocolate in containers? Can 86F or a lower temperature really be achieved?

In the Philippines, where I am and as it is December,Ambient Temperature is 84-88F and Cocoa Liquor Temperature(at room temperature liquid & near solid state) is 88F.

Presently, my tempering process cools down from 115F to 88F (with 88F Seed Chocolate added at 95F to aid in the cooling process) by gradually creating a 78F iced-water jacket under the chocolate container bowl of the tempering machine. However, even with constant stirring & scraping for 30 minutes we can only cool down to 88F. Beyond 30 minutes, some more cooling is possible but the chocolate starts to be un-stirrable/un-workable.

Is the use of chilled water (to cool down chocolate during tempering) correct? How long does this process take? Is there an appropriate time period?

Thomas Forbes
@Thomas Forbes
12/11/12 14:12:08
102 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am a small chocovision tempering machine and set the temperatures at 118 drop it to 86 and take it back up to almost 90. After I get it in the mold, I have been putting them in 50-60 temperatures and can pop them out of the mold in about an hour. No bloom and great snap. When I let the mold harden at 70 degrees plus and it took many hours, bloom started coming out after about hours in the mold if the chocolate was not hard yet.

I have been using similar proportions of liquor, butter and sugar. I try to get my percentages closer to 65%-70% liquor, 5-9% butter and 25-30% sugar. I have been making slight adjustments to see how different the results might be. As far as the timing in the small cocao town melanger, I usually run the liquor by itself for 12 hours, and then start adding the sugar over about an hour period while I also add the additional butter. I stop the machine somewhere between 20 and 24 hours. Used some nice Equadorian liquor last time and was able to use less sugar and only conched for 16 hours because I liked it so much at that point. I added the sugar at 8 and needed those 6 hours to grind the sugar, the cacao was really good.

G P Baron
@G P Baron
12/11/12 05:16:00
4 posts

Keeping chocolate in temper


Posted in: Tech Help, Tips, Tricks, Techniques

I am new to this forum. I have done quite a bit of reading and this website has been very helpful.

Using fermented cacao beans from trees that I grew 4+ years ago, a small horizontal rotary roaster, a drill press modified to run a vertical ball mill at 60 rpm; and, a water-jacketed wheel tempering machine (which I designed as these equipment would be difficult to acquire/purchase overseas from the Philippines where I am situated), I am able to produce nice-looking, fine-textured and good-tasting 70% Cacao chocolates.

My chocolates contain ~60% beans, ~10% cocoa butter, ~30% raw washed sugar, ~1% vanilla powder and ~1% lecithin. The nibs are milled for about 36 hrs (50+50% of the sugar is added at 12 & 16 hrs, 50+50% cocoa butter at 20 & 24 hrs, 1% vanilla powder at 24 hrs; and 1% lecithin at 35 hrs.) After solidifying the liqour in bread loaf pans atroom temperature for 3 days ( Does it qualify as couverture at this stage? ), it is chopped into small pieces and melted in the tempering machine. Over a 1hr and 15 minute period, the chocolate is heated to 122degF, cooled-down to 88 degF (by initially replacing heated jacket water with 86degF tap water and with 84degF ICED tap water) and finally warmed again to raise chocolate temperature to ~90degF.

I use the 122degF, 88degF and 90degF temperatures as they were specified in the Tempering (Dark) Chocolate video at Tempering Chocolate . Admittedly, I am unable to cool-down to 80degF as specified in the video (as that would require very cold or chilled water). Are these the correct temperatures for tempering 70% Cacao Bean chocolates? The use of iced or chilled water to cool-down before settling to the tempering temperature is not mentioned in this discussion thread. Is the use of iced or chilled water correct?

Despite the above attempts to temper, my chocolates do NOT have the snap of properly-tempered chocolates. They are dark colored but NOT as-dark-as commercially-sold dark chocolates. They also produce very fine white powder-like bloom on their surfaces after a few days. What am I doing wrong?

I look forward to everyone's feedback, comments and suggestions. Thank you in advance.

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